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they were ready to go to the mat. >> and the key person in this deal is paul ryan. it has been fascinating watching him after the election, he voted of course in the fiscal cliff deal. he was there today talking the republicans down on this a little bit. you know, if you thought after the election he would prepare for 2016 if he indeed runs, trying to be a conservative on the right flank, he seems to be on the right of the caucus. >> and one of the best john boehner anecdotes, saying that paul ryan was hanging out, being a whispering, talking about the debt limit and about why the short term makes sense. and remember, there has always been a fissure between the leadership and back bench, but ryan appeals to both crowds and taking that responsibility, willingly, happily, being the person to mend fences within these two blocks of the house republican congress. >> it is a huge, interesting development in the political career here. thank you guys for being here and all the great reporting over the week. >> thank you. >>> coming up, republicans have an explanation for th
they were ready to go to the mat. >> and the key person in this deal is paul ryan. it has been fascinating watching him after the election, he voted of course in the fiscal cliff deal. he was there today talking the republicans down on this a little bit. you know, if you thought after the election he would prepare for 2016 if he indeed runs, trying to be a conservative on the right flank, he seems to be on the right of the caucus. >> and one of the best john boehner anecdotes,...
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the writing was on the wall yesterday when republican budget chairman paul ryan told members they need to be prepared for a debt ceiling increase. the attitudes from republican leaders are a lot different today. senator jon cornyn of texas wrote an op-ed said it may be necessary to partially shut down the government in order to secure the long-term fiscal well-being of the country. now cornyn tells the chronicle editorial board we will raise the debt ceiling. we are not going to default on our ded debt. two years ago, they were gloating over their debt ceiling hostage strategy. >> no president in the near future, maybe in the distant future, will be able to get the debt ceiling increased without a reignition, reigniting of the same discussion of how do we cut spending and get america headed in the right direction. i expect the next president, whoever that is, will be asking us to raise the debt ceiling again in 2013. we'll be doing it all over. >> today, mitch mcconnell doesn't sound so tough. instead of demanding spending cuts on entitlement reform, here is his new demand. the america
the writing was on the wall yesterday when republican budget chairman paul ryan told members they need to be prepared for a debt ceiling increase. the attitudes from republican leaders are a lot different today. senator jon cornyn of texas wrote an op-ed said it may be necessary to partially shut down the government in order to secure the long-term fiscal well-being of the country. now cornyn tells the chronicle editorial board we will raise the debt ceiling. we are not going to default on our...
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is paul ryan now the de facto head of the gop? >> well, you know, actually, martin, i think he has been much more influential than people realize -- >> because he's been quite quiet publicly. >> going back to 2011. he has so much respect within that republican caucus. he's the guy who killed simpson/bowl simpson/bowles. he was on the simpson/bowles commission and wasn't willing to have any revenue increases. his fingerprints were not on it. and then when it came to the grand bargain, he told john boehner wait until the election. don't do this deal. so this is more of the same from him in his own relatively quiet way because he is much more intelligent than a lot of the other members. he does wield a lot of influence. what he's trying to do here is not just kick the can down the road but to kind of institution institutionalize basically a water torture for the country where we would be going through this potentially month after month after month. >> yeah. jared, it was reported today that the country saw another drop in unemploymen
is paul ryan now the de facto head of the gop? >> well, you know, actually, martin, i think he has been much more influential than people realize -- >> because he's been quite quiet publicly. >> going back to 2011. he has so much respect within that republican caucus. he's the guy who killed simpson/bowl simpson/bowles. he was on the simpson/bowles commission and wasn't willing to have any revenue increases. his fingerprints were not on it. and then when it came to the grand...
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not so much attacking paul ryan. i could go either way on that, but attacking the callousness and the coldness in that governing vision. >> also bringing it back to a set of values that are truly fundamentally american, tying it in -- >> we're just watching, as you can see, karen, the vice president and dr. jill biden -- >> look like they're going to the viewing station. >> they are. and they're walking up. >> i wasn't sure if they would be able to get the vice president off the parade route. >> he was certainly having a great deal of fun. sorry, karen, the rebukes continued with the president saying things like name calling is not a reasoned debate. so that's good night to rush limbaugh. he said an oath to god and country, not to party and faction. so that's good night to eric cantor. and some may deny the overwhelming judgment of science, but none can avoid the devastating impact of raging fire. that's good night to those republicans who don't believe in science. there was a critique, was there not, of his politica
not so much attacking paul ryan. i could go either way on that, but attacking the callousness and the coldness in that governing vision. >> also bringing it back to a set of values that are truly fundamentally american, tying it in -- >> we're just watching, as you can see, karen, the vice president and dr. jill biden -- >> look like they're going to the viewing station. >> they are. and they're walking up. >> i wasn't sure if they would be able to get the vice...
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. >> and when you see that 9%, on what is the paul ryan, the no exceptions position on abortion, the abortion that was held by all of those crazy republicans who tried to justify it this year by saying things like, well, you know in rape, the female body has defenses against pregnancy and rape, and all that nutty stuff. that view is held by 9% of the population, which is an impossible electoral position for the republican party. >> that is what i think, and that is what they are saying at the planned parenthood. they are so out of step, these representatives across the country, they are so out of step on women and women's health care access. what we saw in the election, this extreme position on women's health, overturning roe v. wade, getting rid of planned parenthood. that probably cost him the election, certainly with women and younger voters. and i think it will cost other folks, as well. >> and the polling is showing an expanding favorability for abortion rights, and republicans always do this. it is never confused with abortion. they pretend that women when they come to this cho
. >> and when you see that 9%, on what is the paul ryan, the no exceptions position on abortion, the abortion that was held by all of those crazy republicans who tried to justify it this year by saying things like, well, you know in rape, the female body has defenses against pregnancy and rape, and all that nutty stuff. that view is held by 9% of the population, which is an impossible electoral position for the republican party. >> that is what i think, and that is what they are...
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that's why paul ryan jumped onboard. he and marco rubio won on this. that's a big deal. >>> stalemate over spending. president obama says he won't negotiate on the debt limit. is the government shutdown inevitable? greg waldon, a member of the leadership, he joins me on that issue and more on whether his party has primary problem. we will ask him how he plans to deal with that. >>> plus -- >> most people who know me know i'm -- i'm a pretty friendly guy. i like a good party. >> president obama responds to this chorus of criticism that he doesn't socialize enough. with the lack of interparty partying says about the tone in washington these days. first, sheer look ahead at the president's schedule. kind of a quiet day at the white house, we are told. we will see. all meetings not on the -- front of the video lens. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy
that's why paul ryan jumped onboard. he and marco rubio won on this. that's a big deal. >>> stalemate over spending. president obama says he won't negotiate on the debt limit. is the government shutdown inevitable? greg waldon, a member of the leadership, he joins me on that issue and more on whether his party has primary problem. we will ask him how he plans to deal with that. >>> plus -- >> most people who know me know i'm -- i'm a pretty friendly guy. i like a good...
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what i was struck by was paul ryan's role. telling them that they have to have a strategy. and that they have to tread carefully right nowity upcoming fights. >> one of the things that was announced the rebranding of the campaign group, obama for america, and jim messina was on, a few minutes ago to talk about the new group. it was going to work as an advocacy work to advance the president's agenda. do you think that committee will be able to successfully help the president without the president being on a ticket? >> i think that -- i think that the organization will. i think that one of the things that he is putting in place is a really amazing organizing infrastructure, be it through social media. he galvanized people to take part in the political process in a way that he has not before. so there's an opportunity to keep this base moving and working for him. >> what motivates th s thathat e another guy that he is running against, and being able to say, we may not be wild about the president, but we do not like this guy. >> it's so different when we are talking about gover
what i was struck by was paul ryan's role. telling them that they have to have a strategy. and that they have to tread carefully right nowity upcoming fights. >> one of the things that was announced the rebranding of the campaign group, obama for america, and jim messina was on, a few minutes ago to talk about the new group. it was going to work as an advocacy work to advance the president's agenda. do you think that committee will be able to successfully help the president without the...
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ryan, senate power brokers jim demint, jon kyl, tom coburn, and event organizer frank luntz. >> the room was filled. it was a who's who of ranking members who had at one point been committee chairmen or in the majority, who now wondered, out loud, whether they were in the permanent minority. >> the 44th president of these united states, barack obama. >> many of them had attended obama's inauguration. they had seen that breathtaking spectacle of a million and a half people on the mall. and it felt like a wholesale repudiation of the republican party. >> they walked into that dining room as depressed as i've seen any elected members of congress. they lost every senate seat they could lose. they lost all these house seats. the numbers were so great that they thought that they weren't coming back again, not for an election or two, but maybe a generation or two. >> narrator: as the night wore on, the talk turned to the future. >> three hours, some of the brightest minds in the republican party debated how to be relevant. >> the point i made was that we had to be prepared in the tradition
ryan, senate power brokers jim demint, jon kyl, tom coburn, and event organizer frank luntz. >> the room was filled. it was a who's who of ranking members who had at one point been committee chairmen or in the majority, who now wondered, out loud, whether they were in the permanent minority. >> the 44th president of these united states, barack obama. >> many of them had attended obama's inauguration. they had seen that breathtaking spectacle of a million and a half people on...
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it aims right at paul ryan who talked about takers versus makers, the takers being the one who receive federal benefits but pay no federal income tax. that's a shot. that's not just language that's slipped in. so that's the sense in which this had a combative -- there were a few barbs in this speech. >> one of the moments in the campaign when the president was office balance was when he said you didn't build it, talking about small business. that was one of the big themes of the speech saying you need collective action in order to get anything done. again, not new but laying down real markers act the fact that he's going to night the second term for a progressive vision based on those historical touchstones john mentioned and a program that is based on things that right now republicans have no interest in working with him on. in terms of gun control and climate change, immigration and budget stuff different issue. >> jodi let me go back to your point in your piece about the "new york times" about where the president is today in his own mind. >> well, in some ways i feel that the real s
it aims right at paul ryan who talked about takers versus makers, the takers being the one who receive federal benefits but pay no federal income tax. that's a shot. that's not just language that's slipped in. so that's the sense in which this had a combative -- there were a few barbs in this speech. >> one of the moments in the campaign when the president was office balance was when he said you didn't build it, talking about small business. that was one of the big themes of the speech...
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politico report s speaker john boehner, using paul ryan as his salesman, urged his members to make their stand on the budget and sequesters. jake sherman writes, in roughly 48 hours, the republicans went from defense to offense and retreated to the debt ceiling must be matched by spending cuts. it was the swiftest and most drastic position switch in boehner's speakership. it was not lost on kevin mccarthy who said, "what they'll say after that vote, this is the day of the comeback." maybe if comeback also conotes fractious and uncertain strategy. with no democratic support, the way could go the way of boehner's plan b if just seven republicans break rank. and they still have to contend with the rightward flank. >> you wouldn't believe the number of conservative commentators, hey, you know what, we're going to have to start backing off obama, he's not really a bad guy, not a socialist marxist, he's just a chicago thug. we're becoming isolated on an island here, it's very small. it's a drift out in the middle of nowhere. >> joining us now to discuss this is the sage of capitol hill, nbc's
politico report s speaker john boehner, using paul ryan as his salesman, urged his members to make their stand on the budget and sequesters. jake sherman writes, in roughly 48 hours, the republicans went from defense to offense and retreated to the debt ceiling must be matched by spending cuts. it was the swiftest and most drastic position switch in boehner's speakership. it was not lost on kevin mccarthy who said, "what they'll say after that vote, this is the day of the comeback."...
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and very calmly, with paul ryan being the key salesman because of his credibility with conservatives, convincing them to go ahead with this three-month extension that joe, you say, is a smart idea. >> it is a smart idea. and this morning, you know, we were talking about chris christie being one of the favorites in 2016. "politico" this morning's going behind the curtain again with a question that everybody in washington's asking. are the democrats going to be putting up joe biden for president in 2016? here's how the vice president answered that question when asked yesterday. >> is there any reason you wouldn't run? >> oh, there's a whole lot of reasons why i wouldn't run. i haven't made that decision. and i don't have to make that decision for a while. >> so are you ready to run against hillary clinton in 2016? >> i haven't made that judgment, and hillary hasn't made that judgment, but i can tell you what. everything that should be done over the next two years that i should be part of would have to be done whether i run or i don't run. if this administration is successful, whoever is
and very calmly, with paul ryan being the key salesman because of his credibility with conservatives, convincing them to go ahead with this three-month extension that joe, you say, is a smart idea. >> it is a smart idea. and this morning, you know, we were talking about chris christie being one of the favorites in 2016. "politico" this morning's going behind the curtain again with a question that everybody in washington's asking. are the democrats going to be putting up joe...
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paul ryan, no dummy on this issue, having run as mitt romney's running mate, is coming out in support of the rubio plan. will they be able to get the party extremists to embrace what they're proposing, whatever that is? >> that's such a great question. i think -- i have yet to see really marco rubio's proposal in writing. he has been talking about some concepts, whether, you know, he supports some aspects of immigration reform, but i think i would rather wait until he has something in writing, which i have yet to see. there is some problem. for example, in the house los angeles times has been reporting on this. we at telemundo report on it quite frequently. there is a small group of democrats and republicans working together to try and reach some bipartisan agreement on comprehensive immigration reform. let's remember that the 11 million people that are here illegally aren't just latinos. there are some aryan blonde, blue-eyed people that are undocumented. it's not just a latino issue, my friend. they're not just young. they're working on it. i think that the behind the scenes slow wo
paul ryan, no dummy on this issue, having run as mitt romney's running mate, is coming out in support of the rubio plan. will they be able to get the party extremists to embrace what they're proposing, whatever that is? >> that's such a great question. i think -- i have yet to see really marco rubio's proposal in writing. he has been talking about some concepts, whether, you know, he supports some aspects of immigration reform, but i think i would rather wait until he has something in...
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. >> the gathering of gop luminaries, top conservative congressman eric cantor, paul ryan, senate power brokers jim demint, jon kyl, tom coburn, and event organizer frank luntz. >> they decided that they needed to begin to fight obama on everything. this meant unyielding opposition to every one of the obama administration's legislative initiatives. they all talked about this and they began to get more and more optimistic and they left feeling practically exuberant. >> full of events, ten. count them, ten. >> across washington that evening -- >> stunning crowd of people. >> the new president had no idea what the republicans were planning. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states and first lady michelle obama. >> surrounded by supporters at the inaugural balls, the mood was hopeful. ♪ at last my love >> president obama didn't have a full sense of what washington was going to be like for him. he had not been in the middle of these kind of down and dirty fights. the ugly reality of governing in washington today. >> that really did end up being a hallmark of president ob
. >> the gathering of gop luminaries, top conservative congressman eric cantor, paul ryan, senate power brokers jim demint, jon kyl, tom coburn, and event organizer frank luntz. >> they decided that they needed to begin to fight obama on everything. this meant unyielding opposition to every one of the obama administration's legislative initiatives. they all talked about this and they began to get more and more optimistic and they left feeling practically exuberant. >> full of...
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representative paul ryan has already endorsed rubio's plan. legislators find 39 states are not considering new gun regulations and some may relax their gun laws. having more guns available for self-defense may curb gun violence. >>> the "washington post." clarence thomas broke a 7-year silence during oral arguments. what he was saying was unclear. sources say he was joking about the ivy league and the k transcript only partially showed what he said. he hasn't spoken since 1996. >>> walmart plans to hire any veteran who wants a job and officials project it will lead to 100,000 veterans in five years. >> that's a promise, significant. >> great news. also really quickly again, we want to show while we're doing the papers, the daily news, nra, coming up on the anniversary of newtown, where 20 young children were killed, has put out an app that 4 year-olds can use four years old and up, shoot at targets that are shaped like coffins. >> so get your app. let's go to willie at "politico "politico." >>> chief white house correspondent, mr. allen. you w
representative paul ryan has already endorsed rubio's plan. legislators find 39 states are not considering new gun regulations and some may relax their gun laws. having more guns available for self-defense may curb gun violence. >>> the "washington post." clarence thomas broke a 7-year silence during oral arguments. what he was saying was unclear. sources say he was joking about the ivy league and the k transcript only partially showed what he said. he hasn't spoken since...
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paul ryan seems to be showing a lot of leadership in this regard, telling them to look down the road and come up with some other solutions. what do you think that they now are willing to give, if anything? >> gosh, i probably can't speak for them. i don't know -- >> what do you -- >> do you think they're part of the problem? >> that's a tough caucus. the point is, you've got to find consensus. that you can get 218 votes out of the house on. and so part of it, it's a republican-dominated legislative body, but it doesn't mean that you're necessarily going to pass things with republicans. robert? >> well, look, i agree with senator coburn from a progressive perspective, right? in that, as he said, we have a math problem. we said this a lot during the campaign when we were talking about some of the romney tax cut proposals. but let's look at this from a progressive perspective -- see, it's starting to hit me -- >> there you go, the vodka. >> you know, as senator coburn says, if we don't do some common sense rational things, in 20 years or in 15 years or even in 10 years, we're going to h
paul ryan seems to be showing a lot of leadership in this regard, telling them to look down the road and come up with some other solutions. what do you think that they now are willing to give, if anything? >> gosh, i probably can't speak for them. i don't know -- >> what do you -- >> do you think they're part of the problem? >> that's a tough caucus. the point is, you've got to find consensus. that you can get 218 votes out of the house on. and so part of it, it's a...
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so paul ryan and others within the caucus are seeing a longer game here than is this freshman senator from texas. >> but if you ask paul ryan what he wants to do on gun control, he would say, i don't want to do anything on gun control. you've talked to moderate republicans -- >> what about registration? >> the only thing they might do is something on registration. >> background checks. >> that's it. no idea that you're banning weapons. no chance. >> registration is the worst. >> put it on tape. 5 0% chance it passes. >> good because hunters need 30 bullets. >> if you've seen a single republican say they support that -- >> a democratic lobbyist last night working on this very issue, he said we don't have the votes. that's now, and that is before the president goes outside with the outside game and tries to generate support from the american people. right now the polling isn't there. >> what about immigration? is the president going to get anything out of that? >> immigration is the one issue out there that over the course of the year you could see a deal coming together. you have to wa
so paul ryan and others within the caucus are seeing a longer game here than is this freshman senator from texas. >> but if you ask paul ryan what he wants to do on gun control, he would say, i don't want to do anything on gun control. you've talked to moderate republicans -- >> what about registration? >> the only thing they might do is something on registration. >> background checks. >> that's it. no idea that you're banning weapons. no chance. >>...
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ryan. he used that word during the campaign. and not a loan. i think it was clear, the president was directly responding to those conservatives who have used the word takers. >> let me give the president a simple test. he talked a lot about the work ethic. i have been advocating that we add a provision to unemployment that if you sign up for unemployment compensation, you have to take a course offered by a business in order to improve your job skills so at the end of your unemployment compensation you have a greater workforce capability and frankly 99 weeks of compensation is a two-year associate college degree. paying people 99 weeks. i said to the president, is there a common ground here? i agree with him, medicare is an earned benefit. social security is an earned benefit. medicaid is not. he should not lump them together. it's not about taking. how do we liberate poor americans, give them the capability to be prosperous so we don't have to worry about it because they are rising, working
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not just a liberty-only patriotism which we're hearing from paul ryans but liberty and justice for all, more includ ine realistic. >> fast forward 2016, right? you and i were talking about this, both at kennedy center, latino sale ccelebration. vice president biden made an impression. what makes you think he's trying to vie for the latino votes? >> first of all i know joe biden and i think he's on campaign mode already. we saw a joe biden sprinting through the parade route yesterday. i think he was trying to show us he's a very spry, fit, 70-year-old who will be in very good shape in four years. he became the first vice president to get sworn in by ay ays a latina justice. first vice president to do that. it's a matter of time before we hear joe biden singing or in spanish or reciting irish poetry in spanish because i think joe biden is a very smart politician. realizes how important the latino vote was to this victory. and i think he's prepping himself for a 2016 run. look, he said it at the latina ball the head of the new pack, a hispanic democrat super pac founded and that includes
not just a liberty-only patriotism which we're hearing from paul ryans but liberty and justice for all, more includ ine realistic. >> fast forward 2016, right? you and i were talking about this, both at kennedy center, latino sale ccelebration. vice president biden made an impression. what makes you think he's trying to vie for the latino votes? >> first of all i know joe biden and i think he's on campaign mode already. we saw a joe biden sprinting through the parade route...
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ryan, congressional budget chairman and former vice presidential candidate who once said 60% of americans are takers because they take more in government benefits than they pay in. and about those benefits, mr. president? >> they do not make us a nation of takers, they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> so the talkback question for you this morning, obama's speech, what was your takeaway, facebook.com/carolcnn, or tweet me @carolcnn. your responses later this hour. i'll be right back. a hybrid? most are just no fun to drive. now, here's one that will make you feel alive. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. [ male announcer ] end your long week... with a weekend getaway. save up to forty percent on all weekend hotel stays. book by january thirty first at hiltonanyweekend.com. ♪ >>> good morning to you, thank you so much for being with us. it's 30
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yet paul ryan yesterday coming out and as a leader sort of talking about we may need to be more accepting of the fact that we only control the house. we don't have the white house or the senate. can republicans do anything in the context of the debate -- the fiscal debates we're in now to improve their brand, to improve their standing? >> i think with the middle, they could. the problem, though, is, mark, you know, so they hit their all-time low or high, however you want to characterize this number. it's the worst negative rating we've ever actually recorded for the republican party. but it was republicans. it's republicans who have now a more negative view. there's still more republicans that have a positive view than negative view, but it is core republicans who are upset with the party. so you have to ask yourself, if you're the republican party, who do you win back first, and how do you do it? so if they did a big grand bargain, their favorable ratings would jump a lot with a bunch of voters who may not ever support who they are. that's sort of the political box that i've heard that h
yet paul ryan yesterday coming out and as a leader sort of talking about we may need to be more accepting of the fact that we only control the house. we don't have the white house or the senate. can republicans do anything in the context of the debate -- the fiscal debates we're in now to improve their brand, to improve their standing? >> i think with the middle, they could. the problem, though, is, mark, you know, so they hit their all-time low or high, however you want to characterize...